Friday, June 16, 2023

Trump Is Not A Threat To Democracy

 ... he's just a complete idiot.

Dig this.

The Washington Post reported that attorney Christopher Kise believed that the U.S. Department of Justice under Attorney General Merrick Garland did not want to charge the former president and that the department would be willing to agree to a settlement in the case if the former president were to return the all the remaining documents.

The report said that Trump was “not interested” in the plan after listening to others in his orbit who urged him to take a more “pugilistic approach.”

Then-Trump attorney Alex Cannon urged the former president to give the documents back to the National Archives in the fall of 2021 and warned him of the serious legal repercussions that he would face if he did not, the report added.

Someone on Twitter told me that Trump was being railroaded. I replied that he wasn't being railroaded so much as he tied himself to the tracks and is now about to be squished by the oncoming DOJ train.

By the way, I made a Kubler-Ross-Trump chart in case you're interested.

A couple of high-profile Trump supporters have made it to the Bargaining stage, suggesting that DeSantis will face the same onslaught of legal woes as Trump. That's doubtful as DeSantis doesn't appear to be as much of a belligerent bonehead as The Donald.

4 comments:

Ohioan@Heart said...

I certainly am not a huge fan of Trump. But my problem is that I can’t reconcile Trump being charged (and quite possibly convicted), while Hillary blatantly broke the rules with her server and then broke the law by having it destroyed (all known to the DoJ), Biden has left classified papers in his garage and apparently accepted millions in bribes (which the DoJ has had evidence of for several years), and every other President has taken classified docs as they left the Oval Office - all with complete impunity).

It boils down to this: The law, unequally applied, is not and can not be, justice. It is practically the definition of Injustice. I just can’t accept that the DoJ is following such a clear path of injustice. That is unless DoJ stands for Democrats Obviating Justice.

K T Cat said...

Yep, what Hillary did was far worse and she skated. Yes, Trump has been targeted in the past and government officials have lied and worse trying to get him. The place is shot through with corruption.

Having said that, what Trump did was illegal and endangers the country. If it stands, it will combine with Hillary's acts and form a precedent that will harm America in the future, big time. We've got to draw the line somewhere and Trump is as good a place to start as any.

Also, if a Republican, hopefully DeSantis, is elected in 2024, he needs to come into office and get a whole bunch of scalps. I'm torn on whether it should start with the lying to the courts by the DOJ apparatchiks or if it should start with the swine who attacked the 1st Amendment, teaming up with the tech giants.

tim eisele said...

I don't know as I'd say that Hillary "skated" on this. While she didn't get a legal penalty, it was clearly the last straw that cost her the election. You know, the election for the job that she apparently wanted more than anything in the world, and had probably been actively trying to get for the better part of her life. I'm sure that, in her mind, that was a worse punishment than the most likely legal penalties she was likely to get if it went to trial (a fine, most likely. And maybe a year or two of probation. And she would have lost her job as Secretary of State if she still had the job at the time this came to light). Maybe the courts didn't punish her, but the general population of the US sure did.

I spent a bit of time a while back trying to find out what the actual penalties were for mishandling classified documents, and as near as I can tell, it goes like this:

1. Single occasion of carelessness - Loss of security clearance, maybe fired.
2. Habitual sloppiness in maintaining custody of documents - Fired, maybe fined
3. Sloppiness, insecure off-site storage of information sufficient that uncleared third parties get access (what I understand Hillary C. did) - Fired, fined, maybe some probation or a year or so jail time.
4. Intentionally taking documents off site, showing them (or maybe giving them) to an uncleared person, and actively lying about having them (what General Petraeus did a few years ago) - Petraeus lost his job as CIA director, and got a $100,000 fine and two years probation.
5. Taking the documents, storing them in an insecure fashion, intentionally showing (or maybe giving) them to numerous uncleared individuals who could be foreign agents, lying about having them, and actively resisting efforts by the government to get them back (what I understand Trump has done) - as far as I can see, this is where it transitions from misdemeanors to felonies. It is the "intentionally showing or giving them to uncleared people who may be foreign agents" and "resisting giving them back to the government" that pushes it over the line, and that is the sort of thing that gets people lengthy prison sentences.





Ohioan@Heart said...

So today we see the DOJ give Baby Biden a total pass. Don’t even start that he is admitting to two Misdemeanors, it’s a f’in’ white wash and everyone knows it. All the Democrats who’ve obviously broken the law and are still walking around like they are clean as clean can be. Meanwhile, Trump is being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I guess DOJ does stand for Democrats Obviating Justice. And let me repeat:

The law, unequally applied, is not and cannot be, justice.