Monday, August 06, 2012

This Works On So Many Levels

First we have the Hitlerjugend, err, gay activists suggesting that businesses whose owners have inappropriate thoughts be shut down.
Equality Illinois is urging socially responsible business and institutional leaders across the country to challenge Chick-fil-A's discriminatory practices and end all relationships that enable the Chick-fil-A brand to operate on their premises. 
We urge mall owners who rent space to Chick-fil-A to look deeply at the hateful organizations the company supports. We ask university officials to reconsider accommodating a business that ostracizes a large segment of their student body. We want corporate leaders who allow Chick-fil-A to do business in their offices to consider a new restaurant option during contract renegotiations.
Upon reading this piece of fascist intellectual vomit, I thought of this little snippet from Cabaret.

It's so totally perfect. It's from a musical with Liza Minnelli, it's an uplifting song, the audience is all nodding in approval at the expression of Proper Thoughts, it's performed in an attractive manner by a sweet, innocent boy wearing a uniform associated with S and M and any rational person (ie, none of the intended audience) knows exactly where this is leading. It's as if Bob Fosse, John Kander and Fred Ebb saw this stuff coming 40 years ago.


tom said...

Would it be helpful to write an open letter to these governments identifying other establishments with anti-social views? For example,

"Achmed's Halal Butcher at 4003 Dearborn St, is owned by a man who believes the Koran's teachings. FORWARD!, a concerned citizen."

Doo Doo Econ said...

Progressives have been using "though police" for around 100 years. It is the only way to ensure the bad idea of communism can be propagated by making it the only idea.

Kelly the little black dog said...

Haven't seen that movie in decades. Curious that you missed the reference at the end - "still think you can control them?" Sounds like they're referring to something completely different than a few pandering lib politicians.

K T Cat said...

Kelly, in Vancouver, a group of Knights of Columbus was successfully sued by a pair of lesbians because they would not allow the women to get married in their hall.

Still think you can control them?


Dean said...

"urge", "ask", "consider", "reconsider"... I get the feeling their actual intent is perhaps a bit stronger than their stated words.

Check out the old man at 2:28 who seems to be thinking: "What a crock of #hit".

And let's not forget Ezra Levant who was hauled before a human rights commission court up there in Canada for having the temerity to re-print the Dutch Mohammed cartoons in his publication.

I forget the details but there is also preacher up there that can no longer say anything about homosexuals from the pulpit as he ran afoul of that same human rights court commission system.

I don't really know why people don't think the same thing can happen here given how sensible and rational I've always been told our neighbors to the north are.

tim eisele said...

Uh huh. I see.

You know, for somebody who not too very long ago was complaining bitterly about how his own group was being unjustly and lazily painted as being evil racists[1], you certainly are pleased to do the same thing to other people.

I mean, seriously. Modifying your quote just a bit, "Calling your opponent a Nazi or clinging to the belief that Nazism is still a big problem in the US is an act of supreme laziness."

[1] You might want to consider what you wrote in this post too, and remember that the "gay community" is no more unified, focused, monolithic, or well-organized than the Catholics are. Probably much less so, in fact.

tim eisele said...

Whoops. My second link in the previous comment was supposed to be to this post. Although, the one that I linked to in the previous comment is relevant too, but in a different way.

Secular Apostate said...

Well, not to worry.

In the spirit of Carbon Offsets, we now have Chicken Offsets. If you're gay and just can't live without your Spicy Chicken CoolWrap, you can buy offsets that will contribute to gay causes. It's kind of like the sacrament of Confession, except without the sacrament, a confession, or the priest. Just money.

To tell the truth, I had never eaten at a Chick-fil-A until last Thursday (I missed the big day). THey actually have pretty darn good food, considering it's mass produced. I'll be going back.

K T Cat said...

Yeah, I thought about that one, Tim, but that video reference just jumped out at me and so the analogy wrote itself easily.

And why not? The HHS redefinition is all about those kinds of Vancouver lawsuits. Without the protection of having our organizations defined as "religious" when they clearly are, we're stripped of any defense we might have in court. We will be prey to the vindictive whims of individual gay couples who will be able to sue in court and will win, if "hate speech" and "equality" gay marriage laws get passed.

How many of those lawsuits do you think my parish can handle before we're reduced to getting together an hour every Sunday in the only building and group left to us.

Don't think this is going to happen? How many people did it take to attack the Mt. Soledad Cross?

Come to think of it, the Stuka video is more appropriate than I had originally intended. It's the combined arms of the Reich with the Luftwaffe pinning down the Soviets while the Wehrmacht punches them out on the ground. Here the legal system is in the sky and the gay couples are on the ground.

This is an attack on us, Tim. I'm not shying away from saying it and I don't really care about some Internet meme about when you can and can't use the word "Nazi."

If you disagree, please give me a rational explanation for the HHS mandate and legal redefinitions. What they're peddling, "access to services" is clearly rubbish.

K T Cat said...

By the way, parse that first sentence, Tim. I'm only comparing the activists who are trying to ban Chick-fil-A to the Hitlerjugend. No one else.

tim eisele said...

"Without the protection of having our organizations defined as "religious" when they clearly are, we're stripped of any defense we might have in court."

I have to admit I find this statement puzzling. I've seen you and other people make it recently, without much explanation of what it's supposed to mean. Do religious organizations get special protections that the rest of us don't? Doesn't the Bill of Rights apply to everybody? Am I not free to say what I like without fear of reprisal by the Government, whether I am part of a church or not?

What protection does a religion get that, say, my Science Fiction club doesn't get? And if they get such protection, why on earth do they deserve it, if other people don't?

Dean said...

How is "special protection" defined as being free from the dictates of the government with respect to what services you decide/not decide to provide?

Why is the government even in the business of telling insurance companies what they need to provide?

Would not the free association between the insured and the insurer be able to figure that one out?

K T Cat said...

Tim, sad to say, the First Amendment doesn't cover science fiction clubs. Unless they're all L Ron Hubbard and stuff.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

By narrowing the definition of "religion", they open up a whole slew of our groups to government oversight. Just what we were missing for the last 230+ years because Father Joe's Village for the homeless wasn't totally controlled by government fiat is beyond me.

tom said...

Two things religious groups can do that your sci-fi club can't: serve wine to children and take peyote. Both are religious rites central to certain religions. Though I'm not sure of any religions that allow both...

K T Cat said...

Peyote? Dang! I picked the wrong religion. I knew I shouldn't have based my selection on the hats the big dudes wore!